Translation please

[nmgarza811]

I was going to ask why they were recorded in 1939 so long after their birth, but then looking at the date I realize it probably has everything to do with what was going on with WWII and the unfortunate Nazi alliance at the time.
Makes me proud to know my grandfather and his brothers were part of the resistance and help smuggle Jews out of Italy during the war.

Here is Cesare Augusto Romanin born Oct 3 1901 to Pietro Romanin and Catterina Moro.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... ,349732601

[ery1]

Yes, at that time (1939) the Jews were filed and persecuted..

Here is Cesare Augusto Romanin born Oct 3 1901 to Pietro Romanin and Catterina Moro

Yes, he was born in a house situated in Cannaregio (Venice) at n°114.
His father Pietro, 24 yo, was fireman and his mother Catterina was housewife, both residing in Venice.

Cesare married Gemma Valenti on October 15 1937 in Venice.

Erica

[nmgarza811]

Definitely not one of Italy's proudest moments...

Well here is Ugo Arnoldo Romanin born February 19 1900 to Guido Romanin and Ermenegilda Luzzatto.
There is no notation that I see where he was identified as Jewish. I wonder what happened to him...

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... ,349732201

[ery1]

Definitely not one of Italy's proudest moments...Yes, very sad....

Well here is Ugo Arnoldo Romanin born February 19 1900 to Guido Romanin and Ermenegilda Luzzatto...Ok!

Ugo Arnoldo Moisé Romanin was born in a house situated in Cannaregio (Venice) at n°2206 to Guido Romanin, 27 yo, shopkeeper and Ermenegilda Luzzatto, hosewife, both residing in Venice.

Erica

[ery1]

I've found Romanin Guido in Military conscription lists (liste di leva) of the State Archives of Venice:
http://www.archiviodistatovenezia.it/le ... hp?id=4402

Here's the research database:
http://www.archiviodistatovenezia.it/le ... h.php?SR=1

Erica

[nmgarza811]

Wow! thank you. So if I am reading this right
Guido born July 21 1872 son of Arnoldo a professor and his wife Emilia
and I take that he was exempted because he was the only son. Is that right?

[nmgarza811]

Here is Anna Romanin born August 29 1898. The only name I am seeing is her mother's name Ermenegilda Romanin. And it looks like Anna died May 7 1981 in Venice.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... ,349731801

[elica]

Anna Romanin was born on August 28, 1898, in Santa Croce n. 811, Venice.
Mother: Ermenegilda Romanin, 22 yo, housewife.
Father: a not mentioned unmarried man.

From the side notes:

Anna was then recognized as his own daughter by Guglielmo Klent (?) when he and her mother Ermenegilda got married on April 14, 1900, in Venice.

As you have already seen Anna died on May 7, 1981 in Venice,

[nmgarza811]

Thank you!

This one is for Felice Romanin born Aug 22 1895.
Father is Vittorio Romanin and I do not see the mother's name. I do see what appears to be the date of death as May 22 1943 in Austria - I would assume in the war perhaps?

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... ,349727301

[ery1]

he was exempted because he was the only son. Is that right?

It would seem so...
You can request a copy to the State Archives of Venice.

Erica

[ery1]

Felice Giuffrido Romanin born Aug 22 1895 in a house situated in Cannaregio at n°5245 B.
His father was Vittorio Romanin, 34 yo, mechanician, residing in Venice and his mother was a not mentioned unmarried woman.

He was then recognized and legitimated by the subsequent marriage of his parents Virginia Girotti and Vittorio Romanin, celebrated on June 20 1905 in Venice.

I do see what appears to be the date of death as May 22 1943 in Austria - I would assume in the war perhaps?

No, he died in Adria (Rovigo Province) on May 20 1943, during the WWII.

Erica

[nmgarza811]

Thank you...again. How do I request the information from the State Archives? And I am wondering, do you know if they would have information on my grandfather who served with the navy during WWII? I recently found out that he was taken prisoner of war and escaped from the Germans and I would love to find out more information if possible.

[nmgarza811]

This is Antonio Romanin born March 18 1894.
Father is Giuseppe age 29 and I do not see the mother's name.

Died May 5 1955. What are the other dates in the death date notification?

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... ,349742501

[ery1]

How do I request the information from the State Archives?

With a written request to the State Archives of Venice (attaching a copy of your ID), here's the address:
http://www.archiviodistatovenezia.it/we ... .php?id=14

You can use a form like this (filling it with all the info you have) but you should correct it by writing "copia della Lista di leva" instead of "copia del Foglio Matricolare":
http://www.unirr.it/attachments/article ... 0Stato.pdf

They will send you the copy upon payment of the costs of reproduction and shipping (through international money order):
http://www.archiviodistatovenezia.it/we ... .php?id=88

Erica

[ery1]

And I am wondering, do you know if they would have information on my grandfather who served with the navy during WWII?

You can request his Military Service Record (Foglio matricolare), which for the Navy is held by Ministry of Defence, here's the address:
Persomil 12ª Div. - Viale dell’Esercito n.186 - 00143 Roma
http://www.difesa.it/SGD-DNA/Staff/DG/P ... 30810.aspx

For information on prisoners of war, the Red Cross in Geneva has suspended the research service:
https://www.icrc.org/eng/resources/docu ... ld-war.htm

But you can write to Italian Red Cross for a copy of the documentation about his imprisonment (you can download a form):
Croce Rossa Italiana
Ufficio Ricerche, RFL e Documentazione di Guerra
Via Toscana, 12 - 00187 Roma
Telefono: +39.06.4759384/5/6
mail: italcross.tracing@cri.it
http://www.cri.it/flex/cm/pages/ServeBL ... agina/1038

Erica