itriacalleri ha scritto:Allora, da queste persone non abbiamo mai avuto notizie, non hanno mai scritto e non sappiamo nulla, naturalmente mi farebbe piacere cosa hanno fatto nella loro vita e se hanno dei figli e dove attualmente si trovano. Vorrei sapere anche se Placido e Samuele vivono ancora, eventualmente vorrei contattarli ed andarli a trovare.
Ho provato a cercare qualcosa anche su di loro....
Intanto mi sono documentata un poco sul periodo "nero" della "Black Hand" a Philadelphia e devo dire che probabilmente le voci che Salvatore fu ucciso potrebbero essere vere....
Inoltre credo che sia morto nella prima metà dell'anno 1925...
Ecco cosa ho trovato (brevemente)...
dal sito:
http://exhibitions.library.temple.edu/p ... zettis.jsp
The six Lanzetti brothers, Leo, Pius, Willie, Ignatius, Lucian, and Teo, were notorious gunman, numbers gamblers, narcotics dealers, and liquor bootleggers in South Philadelphia during the 1920s and 1930s. The Lanzettis organized an "Alky Cooking" supply network by providing a contingent of row house dwellers with home stills and paying them to produce saleable liquor. Children gather outside store on South 8th Street where Pius Lanzetti was murdered. 1936
The Lanzettis then sold the liquor at marked up prices. Their most trusted associates included Louis "Fats" Delrossi and Michael Falcone. At various times, the Lanzettis feuded with several different groups of racketeers in South Philadelphia, as well as with Mickey Duffy and some of his partners. The Lanzettis' criminal careers were marked by frequent arrests and brutal violence. Between 1924 and 1939, at least one brother was involved as a suspect or a material witness in no less than fifteen murder cases, including Pius' detainment (and dismissal) during the early stages of the investigation into the murder of Mickey Duffy. Leo, the eldest, was killed on August 22, 1925, as he left a barber shop at 7th and Bainbridge Streets, in an apparent retribution for the murder of a rival dope peddler and bootlegger, Joseph Bruno. He had been killed by Leo and Ignatius, four days earlier at 8th and Catherine Streets. Enemy bullets claimed the lives of Pius, on New Year's Eve, 1936, and Willie, on July 2, 1939
Qui si parla dell'omicidio di Leo Lanzetti avvenuto il 22 agosto del 1925 in seguito a vendetta per l'omicidio di Joseph bruno avvenuto 4 giorni prima (18 agosto)....
Questo per dire che il 1925 deve essere stato un periodo "clou" per questi fatti

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Notando poi che l'ultimo figlio di Salvatore si chiama proprio come il padre penso che il motivo posssa essere che quando nacque Lui già non c'era piu' e forse Josephine decise di chiamarlo come il marito....
Ad avvalorare questa "ipotesi" avrei trovato questi records ulteriori:
Listamento per la Seconda Guerra Mondiale:
U.S. World War II Army Enlistment Records, 1938-1946
about Salvatore Ferla
Name:
Salvatore Ferla
Birth Year: 1925
Race: White, citizen (White)
Nativity State or Country: Pennsylvania
State: Pennsylvania
County or City: Philadelphia
Enlistment Date: 16 Nov 1943
Enlistment State: Pennsylvania
Enlistment City: Philadelphia
Branch: No branch assignment
Branch Code: No branch assignment
Grade: Private
Grade Code: Private
Term of Enlistment: Enlistment for the duration of the War or other emergency, plus six months, subject to the discretion of the President or otherwise according to law
Component: Selectees (Enlisted Men)
Source: Civil Life
Education: 2 years of high school
Civil Occupation: Machine Operator
Marital Status: Single, without dependents
Height: 00
Weight: 000
Social Security Death Index
about Salvatore Ferla
Name:
Salvatore Ferla
SSN: 192-XX-XXXX
Last Residence: 91105 Pasadena, Los Angeles, California, United States of America
Born: 3 Aug 1925
Died: 18 Dec 1999
State (Year) SSN issued: Pennsylvania (Before 1951)
Se questo è il Salvatore che penso allora è sepolto qui:
U.S. Veterans Gravesites, ca.1775-2006
about Salvatore Ferla
Name:
Salvatore Ferla
Service Info.: SSGT US ARMY WORLD WAR II
Birth Date: 3 Aug 1925
Death Date: 18 Dec 1999
Service Start Date: 7 Dec 1943
Interment Date: 12 Jan 2000
Cemetery:
Riverside National Cemetery
Cemetery Address: 22495 Van Buren Boulevard, Riverside, CA 92518
Buried At: Section 45 Site 68
sito del cimitero nazionale di Riverside in California:
http://www.rncsc.org/
Queso potrebbe essere uno degli ultimi indirizzi di Salvatore:
U.S. Public Records Index
about Salvatore Ferla
Name:
Salvatore Ferla
Birth Date:
Aug 1925
Street address: 2624 Lake Ave
City:
Altadena
County:
Los Angeles
State:
California
Zip Code: 91001
Phone Number: 626
Di Placido invece conosciamo la data precisa di nascita (dal manifesto di sbarco trovato da Suanj):
Suanj ha scritto: Placido Ferla fece un viaggio nel 1942; era
nato a Philadelphia il 3 Marzo 1921 e ritornava a casa al 905 Ritner st Philadelphia, PA
New Orleans Passenger Lists, 1820-1945
about Placido Ferla
Name: Placido Ferla
Arrival Date: 15 Sep 1942
Age: 21 years 6 months
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Cristobal, Canal Zone
Ship Name: Aconcagua
Port of Arrival: New Orleans, Louisiana
Birthplace: Pennsylvania,Philadelphia
National Archives' Series Number: T905_182
http://img411.imageshack.us/im.....rlaej2.jpg
Da questo manifesto si capisce che Placido viene imbarcato a Cristobal (Canale di Panama) e sbarcato a New Orleans...
Ho trovato che venne listato per la seconda guerra:
U.S. World War II Army Enlistment Records, 1938-1946
about Placido Ferla
Name:
Placido Ferla
Birth Year: 1921
Race: White, citizen (White)
Nativity State or Country: Pennsylvania
State: Pennsylvania
County or City: Philadelphia
Enlistment Date: 12 Jun 1944
Enlistment State: Pennsylvania
Enlistment City: New Cumberland
Branch: No branch assignment
Branch Code: No branch assignment
Grade: Private
Grade Code: Private
Term of Enlistment: Enlistment for the duration of the War or other emergency, plus six months, subject to the discretion of the President or otherwise according to law
Component: Selectees (Enlisted Men)
Source: Civil Life
Education: 4 years of high school
Civil Occupation: Machinist* or Railway Mechanic, General or Engine Specialist (Machinist, Automobile) An asterisk (*) appearing after a job title indicates that a trade test for the particular occupation will be found in the United States Employment Service Manual, Oral T
Marital Status: Single, without dependents
Height: 68
Weight: 493
e.... a dire il vero non ho trovato il Social Security Death Number... perciò potrebbe essere ancora vivo....
A meno che non abbia modificato il nome di battesimo...
Avrei trovato questi tre records:
Da
http://www.ancestry.com/search/
U.S. Public Records Index
about Placido Ferla
Name:
Placido Ferla
Birth Date: 1921
Street address: 839 Westfield Dr
City:
Riverton
County: Burlington
State:
New Jersey
Zip Code: 08077
U.S. Public Records Index
about Placido Ferla
Name:
Placido Ferla
Birth Date: 1921
Street address: 839 Westfield Dr
City: Cinnaminson
County: Burlington
State:
New Jersey
Zip Code: 08077
Io se fossi in te proverei a scrivere due righe a questo indirizzo... chissà...
Laura
