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meadescope
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In search of Marriage and Death Records

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I am in search of the death records and marriage record for Domenico Rosset and Margherita Piccinin listed in the following Death Record for Giuseppe Rosset(my great, great, grandfather)

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cc=2043819

Also, I would like help in finding the marriage record for Giuseppe Rosset and his wife Angel Moras to see her parent's names.

If anyone can help, I would appreciate it. These records are before the years listed online through Family Search.

Thanks so much!

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mimoalessandro
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So, Domenico and Margherita were resident in Pasiano (now in the province of Pordenone): this means that probably they died there. I have check the index in Family Search for Pasiano, but there is no death records for Domenico and Margherita, this means that they died before 1871. Before this year there is no more records done by the city halls, in fact they were performed by the church.

You should try to ask for the death records to the "Parrocchia di Pasiano":

http://www.pmap.it/parrocchiemap/consul ... sc=7600067
MIMO
Alessandro (1990) < Antonio (1959) < Iginio (1911) < Antonio (1885) < Angelo (1839) < Vincenzo (1808) < Pietro (1784) < Angelo (1752) < Lorenzo ... to be continued...

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I have searched a bit also in the military records ("liste di leva").
I have found a son of Giuseppe Rosset and Angela Moras, born on the 12 February 1867:

ROSSET GIOVANNI
Nato il 12/02/1867 a PASIANO DI PORDENONE da GIUSEPPE e MORAS ANGELA

Atto di leva IT/ASUD/LEVA/1867/E.001/PRD/P-675
Istituto ARCHIVIO DI STATO - UDINE (IT)
Fondo FONDO DI LEVA
Serie 1887
Fonte Liste di estrazione 196
Numero Atto 675 (PORDENONE)

http://www.friulinprin.beniculturali.it/ita/WebAsud/

He was born in Pasiano, this means that it is very likely that you can find also the marriage of Giuseppe and Angela in Pasiano, asking to the church.
For sure, if you ask for the batism record of Giovanni in February 1867, you will discover:

- the name of the father of Domenico Rosset
- the name of the father of Angela Moras


Another thing you can do: write to the comune of Azzano Decimo and ask for the death record of Angela Moras, which I didn't find in Family Search (maybe she died after 1910). In the death record you have posted, there is in fact written "marito di Angela Moras", therefore Angela was still alive when Giuseppe died (otherwise they would have written "vedovo di Angela Moras").

I hope I dind't confuse you too much :lol:
MIMO
Alessandro (1990) < Antonio (1959) < Iginio (1911) < Antonio (1885) < Angelo (1839) < Vincenzo (1808) < Pietro (1784) < Angelo (1752) < Lorenzo ... to be continued...

meadescope
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Thanks so much! You did not confuse me at all. I had the name of Giovanni, but did not have his date of birth, so that helps a lot. I will write to the church for more information. I have almost all of the records for the my direct Rosset ancestor line, but could not get any further back than the names of Domenico Rosset and Margherita Piccinin. Thanks for helping break down one of my walls! :)

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I don't know if you already have it, but I have just found also the birth record of a brother of Giuseppe, called Antonio, born in 1806 (number 34).

http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... ewsIndex=0

Unfortunatly there is no mention on the names of Domenico's and Margherita's father...but at least you can know their age. I hope you can read the italian, in case if you need help tell me. Domenico were born approx. around 1786 and Margherita in 1783, but of course more or less...this should make easier the research in the church records.
MIMO
Alessandro (1990) < Antonio (1959) < Iginio (1911) < Antonio (1885) < Angelo (1839) < Vincenzo (1808) < Pietro (1784) < Angelo (1752) < Lorenzo ... to be continued...

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There were other sons, but it is never mentioned the paternity of Domenico! Let us know if you discover somenthing more.

http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... 1.jpg.html

http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... ewsIndex=0
MIMO
Alessandro (1990) < Antonio (1959) < Iginio (1911) < Antonio (1885) < Angelo (1839) < Vincenzo (1808) < Pietro (1784) < Angelo (1752) < Lorenzo ... to be continued...

meadescope
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Thanks so much!! I did not have Antonio or Valentino, but I did have Marco from his death record in 1876. I have written to the church parish, so I will update if I find out anything else.

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There is another son of Domenico named Angelo, born in 1815 and died 1883. I found his death record. :)

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mimoalessandro
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By the way, it is ValentinA, a woman!

Good luck with your research!
MIMO
Alessandro (1990) < Antonio (1959) < Iginio (1911) < Antonio (1885) < Angelo (1839) < Vincenzo (1808) < Pietro (1784) < Angelo (1752) < Lorenzo ... to be continued...

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Oops! Thanks for the correction! I read the messages around 12:30 last night and only looked for the name, not the gender!
Also, I was wondering why the last name appears to be Rossetto in these early records and then changes to Rosset in later years. Should I be looking for Rosseto in the records as well?
Thanks for helping me! I am grateful!

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mimoalessandro
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There is two possibility, I would say RosseT or RosseTTO.

It is common that a surname during the history undergoes some slight changes. Also because in some region of Veneto people tend not to pronounce the final vowels in some words, so maybe Rossetto became Rosset or the other way around.
MIMO
Alessandro (1990) < Antonio (1959) < Iginio (1911) < Antonio (1885) < Angelo (1839) < Vincenzo (1808) < Pietro (1784) < Angelo (1752) < Lorenzo ... to be continued...

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My own ancestors were Ros and Rosset at the same time, depending on who was writing, so don't disregard Ros, Rossit, Rosset, Rossetto...
~ Gloria ~

meadescope
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Messaggio da meadescope »

Thanks mimoalessandro and luorui for the input on surnames! Many times here in the United States, businesses will add another T and I become Rossett. I will keep in mind to consider those variations as I continue my search.

Luorui, you have Rosset in your genealogy also?

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ciganasimona
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Ciao a giorni dovrei andare in archivio parrocchiale a Pasiano, inserisco i tuoi dati di ricerca nei miei appunti. Cosa ti serve di preciso? Bastano le foto degli atti o ti servono i certificati (uso cittadinanza, ad esempio)?

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Simona 1977 > Cesarino Adriano 1950 > Vittorio 1918 > Luigi 1876 > Antonio 1847 > Giuseppe 1804

luorui
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I have Ros (or at least I've decided to put it down as Ros) that is sometimes written as Rosset or Rossit, in one case as "Ros: Rossit", as if I needed more proof they were the same family/people.
There's also Da Ros, Del Ros, etc.
Ros and variants are very common here, and I'm sure they're not all originally from the same common ancestor, Rosso meaning Red, it's very easy for many people to have been called Ros for various reasons.
~ Gloria ~

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