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Lucrezia Barsi (nee Mazzei) death Pietrasanta, 1884

Inviato: lunedì 22 giugno 2015, 3:14
da mazzie74
Hi

My Gt-Gt-Gt-Gt-Gt Aunt, Lucrezia Mazzei (b.c.1798) was born in Alpe di Stazzema, Lucca Province.

She married Lorenzo Barsi in Alpe di Stazzema in 1819.

The family is still in Alpe di Stazzema in the 1841 Tuscany census.

I have found Lucrezia's death in Pietrasanta in 1884.

She is listed as a widow, but I can't find the death record of Lorenzo Barsi.

Does her death record give a commune she was living in?

I will check through that towns records if so for the death of Lorenzo.

Thanks,

Darin.

Immagine

Inviato: lunedì 22 giugno 2015, 3:16
da mazzie74
This is their marriage record:

Immagine

Inviato: lunedì 22 giugno 2015, 8:55
da luorui
In her death record it's written that she was living in Pietrasanta.
But I've found, in my family, that sometimes after the death of a husband, the widow moved town, often to live with one son or the other, or other relatives, so be aware of that.

Inviato: lunedì 22 giugno 2015, 12:13
da mazzie74
Hi

Thanks for that.

My Lucrezia had a son called Agasito Barsi. He was born in Stazzema in 1831.

There seems to be an Agasito Barsi noted in this record, resident of Baccatoio.

If this is her son, I can't seem to find the town of Baccatoio listed in either antenati.san.beniculturi or familysearch.

Do you know where I can search for records in this town?

Thanks,

Darin.

Inviato: lunedì 22 giugno 2015, 12:55
da ziadani

Inviato: lunedì 22 giugno 2015, 13:02
da ery1
Do you know where I can search for records in this town?
I think you should see here, in Val di Castello census 1841:
http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... ento/1841/

Erica

Inviato: lunedì 22 giugno 2015, 16:13
da ery1
I've found this about an Agapito Barsi from Stazzema:

Comunicato Museo Ugo Guidi 28.8.2011

Mons. Bernard Barsi torna a Stazzema

Stazzema- L’Arcivescovo di Montecarlo (Principato di Monaco), Bernard Barsi tornerà di nuovo a Stazzema. Domenica, 11 settembre, celebrerà alle undici la solenne Messa nella Pieve di Santa Maria Assunta di Stazzema.
La comunità di Stazzema lo attende per festeggiarlo. Nei prossimi giorni daremo maggiori dettagli sulla visita dell’arcivescovo che ha in cura la Diocesi di Montecarlo.

Il 22 settembre 2007 il Consiglio comunale di Stazzema conferì a S.E. Mons. Barsi la Cittadinanza Benemerita. Mons. Barsi venne per la prima volta a Stazzema nel 2005 per conoscere la terra d’origine paterna.
Il suo bisnonno si chiamava Agapito, mentre il nonno, Agostino, valente artigiano di arte funeraria, lasciò il paese nel 1870 per trasferirsi in Francia.
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Translation:
Press release Museum Ugo Guidi 28.8.2011

Archbishop Bernard Barsi back to Stazzema

Stazzema- Archbishop of Montecarlo (Principality of Monaco), Bernard Barsi will return again to Stazzema.
Sunday, September 11, he will celebrate a solemn Mass at eleven in the Pieve di Santa Maria Assunta of Stazzema.

The community of Stazzema awaits to celebrate him.
In the coming days we will give more details on the visit of the archbishop who is treating the Diocese of Montecarlo.
On 22 September 2007, the City Council of Stazzema gave SE Mons. Barsi the Meritorious Citizenship.

Mons. Barsi was for the first time in Stazzema in 2005 to know the homeland of his father.
His great-grandfather's name was Agapito, while his grandfather, Agostino, a talented craftsman of funerary art, left the country in 1870 and moved to France.

Erica

Inviato: lunedì 22 giugno 2015, 17:07
da mazzie74
Hi Erica

That's brilliant.

I wonder if he was a plaster figure maker like his cousin and uncles?

Inviato: lunedì 22 giugno 2015, 17:38
da ery1
I wonder if he was a plaster figure maker like his cousin and uncles?
Yes, Agostino built tombs, tombstones and sculptures probably made of plaster and especially marble.
Pietrasanta however is a center for the processing of marble and there is also a museum:
http://www.museodeibozzetti.it/en/home/the-museum/about

Erica

Inviato: lunedì 22 giugno 2015, 17:53
da ziadani
ery1 ha scritto:
Mons. Bernard Barsi torna a Stazzema

Il suo bisnonno si chiamava Agapito, mentre il nonno, Agostino, valente artigiano di arte funeraria, lasciò il paese nel 1870 per trasferirsi in Francia.
Erica
Bel colpo Erica!

Inviato: lunedì 22 giugno 2015, 19:49
da ery1
Bel colpo Erica!
Grazie!
Speriamo di trovare qualcosa in più...
Bernard Barsi nacque a Nizza, forse suo nonno Agostino si spostò lì (Bernard Barsi was born in Nice, maybe his grandfather Agostino moved there).

Erica

Inviato: lunedì 22 giugno 2015, 20:26
da ery1
Barsi Maria Rosa, daughter of Lorenzo and Lucreazia Mazzei, was born in Alpe di Stazzema on September 27 1829:
http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... ewsIndex=0

Erica

Inviato: lunedì 22 giugno 2015, 22:20
da mazzie74
Thanks Erica

That's brilliant

Inviato: mercoledì 24 giugno 2015, 16:00
da ery1
Well, for research in the archives of Nice I have looked in this site:
https://www.departement06.fr/archives-d ... -2895.html

The “Immigration italienne” database was established from the despoilment of the dossiers of naturalization between 1880 and 1931, expulsion records until 1935 and Grasse census of population from 1891 to 1931.
In this database I've found only one person named Barsi (carpenter by profession):
http://www.basesdocumentaires-cg06.fr/o ... /home.html

Will he be related?

Erica

Inviato: mercoledì 24 giugno 2015, 16:53
da mazzie74
Hi Erica - the picture is very small and hard to read.

Is there any way of getting a larger image without it becoming pixelated?

The children of Lucrezia that I know of were:

Maria Caterina Barsi (born and died 1820);
Bartolomeo Barsi (1821-1886) - his birth record calls him Raffaello Adriano Barsi;
Caterina Barsi (b.1823);
Maria Teresa Franesca Barsi (1826-1831);
Maria Rosa Barsi (b.1829);
Agasito Barsi (b.1831);
Maria Teresa Petronella Barsi (b.1833).

As they moved out of Stazzema I have been unable to find what happened to the children (except Bartolomeo who died in Stazzema).

Thanks,,

Darin.